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Start date Sep 7, Watchers 53 Tags mamoli victory. Joined Sep 3, Messages Points I wanted to build a model which is a relatively complex; b not too large so I can work on it in Ship Values Model Building Hms Victory Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values my condo moved out of house a few years ago ; c of a beautiful and historically important ship.

Choice fell on Victory. Selected Mamoli kit because of scale, price and nice cast details. Let us see how it goes. Here is a kit. I believe Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values it is circa Last edited: Jun 24, Next I will just provide pictures of what I had building hms victory model ship values with minimum comments. Good deal! Last edited: Jun 25, Hma the keel is held by planks on vcitory board. Now I stuck Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values in the eighteen manufacturer precut frames and my problems begun.

I will explain the problems in future posts. This evening was dedicated to adjusting 18 frames vertically in order for ship hull to have a proper body curvatures.

I want all curves of my model Victory Values Hms Ship Model Building to be smooth with no bumps. This victorg probably one of most important operations in building of a hull of a kit hhms. This is very difficult to do with these 18 manufactured frames as they cut very inaccurately - I would say they are cut Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values all over the place. It is a valjes to have them cut so inaccurately in the age of CNC machining.

Because of inaccuracy of frames I have difficulty to decide which reference points to take for vertical adjustment. Frame common reference points to select can Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values be: a surface for attaching a deck?

I put all frames into a keel and sat with the model for many ,odel measuring, re aligning and vertically re positioning these frames.

I had to come up with a compromise which makes ab and c references to be not too much off practical sense. Below is a picture showing what Building hms victory model ship values came up. See the thread inserted into gun port notches. The thread curvature aligned itself not so badly. Each frame bottoms are not much too Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values off as. This is the way I will glue this together tomorrow. Have a good night. I added some wood strips on the keel to have frames to sit tight.

Gluing a strip of wood on top of one of frames to level its deck Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values surface mosel other frames. This only frame appeared to be too much off deck level while its bottom and gun port notches are in proper alignment.

Last edited: Jun 26, This is great help. Also the bottle and the applicator on it are very convenient. Here Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values I am gluing frames. In buildinh to prevent distortion I am doing this operation one frame at a time putting all assembly together each time including aligning buildong bars.

I found that one just one of the frames is missing some "meat" on one. I found that looking along the skeleton of a hull I made so far. I have to add some wood on this frame so I do not have a dent in my hull body. For this purpose I normally use a wooden coffee stirring sticks available Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Ship Values Building Model Victory Hms Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values in dollar stores. Here is a picture of what I have. I cut out a required piece of wooden strip and placed it in water for about 30 minutes.

I curved this wet wooden strip on the frame and attached it with small nails. I Building Hms Victory Building Hms Victory Model Ship Online Model Ship Values always pre-drill building hms victory model ship values hole in wood before I insert a nail.

See vaalues. After the wood strip dried out I take it out, apply glue and re attach with nails. I just found that 1st deck on the front cannot Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values by design fit into place unless I brake it.

Last evening I spent leveling frame top surfaces to be perfect level and properly curved along the hull to accept 1st deck. Today I was trying to set 1st level deck onto the frames. I had Values Ship Victory Model Hms Building Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values lots of deck trimming to do in order them to fit onto the frames.

This resulted in some unpleasant gaps around deck and the frames. By the way this deck piece on the front I complained about that it would not fit unless cut, I Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values managed to insert it with no application of water. Just some tweaking with the deck building hms victory model ship values in this and that place. Bad thing is now all 1st level deck pieces are sitting on but there are pretty large gaps in Hms Values Model Building Ship Victory some places around the frames.

This however should be not big issue. This is why I love to work with wood. I will add some support strips and lay over other wood pieces to be level with the surface of 1st deck. See decks are on the hull but not yet glued on. I will glue later. While working on design of rabbet groove required I think I found a much bigger problem with this kit.

I believe design of stern galleries, the portion of it right below the bottom deck Hms Model Victory Ship Values Building Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values of the gallery will not look good. It will not assume proper curvatures of the hull. Stern will look especially bad at the point I marked with red arrow. Here is how my rabbet notch work coming. More work awaiting at the stern area as Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values there the notch becomes a 3D shape.

And yes, I cut it with just an Exacto 11 knife and very building hms victory model ship values va,ues tool. This is most touchy part of rabbet cutting - at the back part of keel. It Building Victory Hms Model Ship Values is not yet a "final mpdel but I am getting. Now rabbet is all done on both sides. It seems to me it was not too difficult to do with frames glued on.

I found that a few plywood pieces Mamoli provided for gluing in Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values the front of the hull are a some not right shape b not sufficient to properly shape building hms victory model ship values hull. I decided to add a piece of pine wood on each. I preliminarily faired the hull. See what I got:. Small sub-deck is planked and glued into place. Some visible frames around this small sub-deck were painted yellow ochre. The first deck is fully assembled.

It had to be re-enforced at many places where parts of it join together and at the notches where decks are meeting the frames. The deck is now uber strong. I will continue copying this build log building hms victory model ship values.

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After setting all the holders and painting them black, Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values I decided it was a good idea to mark the cannon's position and check its alignment. For that I used some standard pins. Pic attached. After checking I had a good alignment, I decided to drill the cannon holes before planking. This may allow Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values to have them ready for later work with them, and to recheck their position and alignment with the real ones.

I think this will save time and efforts after planking and may be useful when opening the gun ports through the planking. Before my next Hms Values Building Victory Model Ship action, I will spend some time studying the planking tutorials and tips and preparing my plan to start planking.

I set the first plank at the lower deck level as indicated in the instructions and continued with two pairs on each side downwards. Then I Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values moved upwards, considering that the upper side did not require a lot of work on the the planks and that will allow me to keep studying how to proceed on the lower level towards the keel.

Pictures attached. The first confusion, mistake, error, blame the Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Ship Building Values Model Hms Victory Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values instructions, blame your wife, blame anybody but you!!! Visiting other Corel-Victory build logs I found a discussion about the instructions not been clear on when to cut the tips of planks 9 and Of course, as Murphy's law indicates, by that time, I already committed the error.

It is not a significant one and it has been corrected in some way , but it is interesting to really question why instructions are so poor? As I mentioned in my new member introduction, I have always built plastic models mainly Tamiya and Hms Values Building Ship Victory Model Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Italeri and they have neat, clear, engineer's proof instructions. Why not Corel? As you can see in the first picture, on this step you are instructed to set the upper deck and poop decks.

If you do so, you need to plank the upper Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values deck in order to plank the area between both of them. But it is till the next step second pic when they timidly tell you to cut the plank tips by means of a dotted line. It's sometime quite unfathomable exactly what you're Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values supposed to do and crucially, in which order.

Having a lot of free time now work is going pretty fast. Doing 4 planks a day a pair on each side. I shape the planks and fix them early in the afternoon, let them dry and Hms Values Ship Building Model Victory sand them at night.

Soaking the planks for half an hour and applying heat with a hair dryer has been enough to shape the planks. I am tapering them based on what I see is needed to have an even plank line. The wood for Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values this first planking is very malleable. I use white glue in between the planks and CA glue for the plank-frames bond. This is just my second planking after the Artesania Latina Swift, so many mistakes have been made.

But my ultimate goals for this first Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values planking is to learn about the process, learn how to work the wood, learn about shaping and tapering the planks and having a smooth, even, correct shape surface; so I am starting to loose the fear on committing errors that can be corrected.

For me, this Ship Values Model Victory Building Hms Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values first planking is low value-added work in terms of spending more working hours to make it look better. For the second planking my approach will change, I will be more patient, looking for a beautiful finish. Picks attached. I have just finished the first planking Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values of my HMS Victory! Despite there are a lot of errors and mistakes I am really satisfied with the outcome, considering this is just my second planking.

I learned a lot and, contrary to what happened with my first experience, I enjoyed it a lot. Thanks Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values to all who posted a Victory build log. A learn a lot from you! Many thanks for your support Richard!!! I am enjoying the build a lot. I decided to cut the gun ports before doing the second planking.

I will load some picks Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values soon. I decided to open them first because any mistake or miss cut can be covered by the second planking. The first pick shows the process. First open a hole where the original pen markings were set.

Then marking the area to be cut using Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values one of the gun port frames. Then cutting by hand with a new blade. Thank you very much for your kind words Richard! It is a motivation to keep working diligently. I coated the carriages with PU varnish, painted the muzzle tips red and the Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values trunnions gun metal. Putting the cannons in placed showed me that I cut the deck gun ports slightly low, so I will need to correct that. What is your technique to bend the planks so nicely at the stern?

Despite a filler that is in Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values my very very humble opinion more accurate than yours with double curvature and all like jpett's if I remember well , my planking is sorely lacking in precision and broken planks remain frequent You are right, my stern fillers are terrible!!!

I am not very patient with work that I consider is not adding value. They said it is too sharp. Maybe the fillers needed further size reduction. I tried different ways of doing the stern curvature.

If you see the first pics I posted on October 27th, you can see that I started by cutting the planks near the stern in order to work with a smaller piece of wood to produce the curvature by heating it with a hair dryer after a 30 minutes soak first 2 planks going into the stern curve.

But that resulted in a lot of work, the piece was very small, I was burning my fingers with the hot air and the piece partially broke at the curvature. My second approach was to mark the area of the curvature with a pencil, soak the Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory plank 30 minutes, heat it to produce the curvature and then glue it into position and cut the excess length.

I made a few that way, but the result was the same, the plank partially broke. Then I noticed that the wood provided in the Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values kit for the first planking was very malleable when wet. I could bend it a lot with my hands without heating, so I took my chances and bent it and glued it still wet.

The plank broke the same way than the previous efforts, but Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Values Model Hms Ship Building Victory a lot of work was saved. I repaired all the breaking points by adding a drop of CA glue and pressing with the tip of a screwdriver.

In my opinion the secret of the planking process was the way I glued the planks. CA glue is very effective if the wood is moistened. So, when placing the new plank from bow to stern , I make sure it was tightly positioned against the previous one at each frame where the CA glue was. If the wood is moistened, it will have a Building Hms Victory Model Ship Model Ship Building Australia Values Values Model Hms Ship Victory Building strong instant bond, that may allow you to keep placing the plank in a nice tight pattern.

At the stern curvature I let the plank partially break and glued it at the stern filler and cut the excess. Then I repaired all the breaking points Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values and sanded the area. I am sorry if my explanation is not good enough.

Please let me know. This pic shows how I glued the planks. You can see the CA glue drops marked in red in the frames and the white glue along the Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values previous plank. I started the second planking with the lower wales as the instructions indicate. No problem bending the 2 mm. More planks added today. I am liking how it looks. Not perfect, but I think that after a good varnish coat it will look nice!

First I soak them for about 30 minutes. Then, while heating with the hair dryer, I slowly bend the planks Best Model Ship Building Books Kit using this simple arrange of nails in a wood pice with the bow and stern curvatures.

I am happy to see another Mexican modeler Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values in the Forum. Another countryman of yours and a very good modeler, Ulises Victoria, I haven't heard from him for a long time. I have dedicated myself to wooden models for about ten years and I alternate it with my other hobby, painting. My last boat was a sardine that I made to order. Now I am with the bow of Panart's Victory scale and which I will upload to the forum soon.

I have seen your participation in the Forum with interest and I congratulate you for your work. Greetings from Guaymas. Thank you very much for your kind words. I am just a beginner, but I am learning a lot and enjoying the build. It is amazing to see the craftsmanship that you and many other member have. Que tal Eugenio: Well, to be a beginner you are excellent and I suppose you are an engineer, an architect or something related to the manual arts because you have good skills for modeling.

Well, I have continued with the HMS Victory bow section from Panart and the instructions really leave a lot to be desired and if it weren't for some photos and drawings you could easily remove them. Now I'm working on the bowsprits and I don't know how to do it, the only illustration that comes does not Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values clarify anything.

I wonder how the bowsprits and the rigging that accompany it in your model are described and if possible could you send me a photo of them. I am tired of planking. I think I will do something different before continuing with the Hms Values Building Ship Victory Model starboard side. I think that a nice sanding and a good varnish coat will enhance the look. Not decided if I will paint it or not. That decision will come later. Because of my job, I used to travel a lot.

Now I have 8 months doing home office. Modeling has been one of the things preventing me from throwing my wife and 3 daughters through the window!!! Or throwing myself!!! I also like philately. I collect Mexican stamps. But at this time modeling has been a better option. And Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values who knows how long this will take.

So I need to keep working on the Victory. In order to produce the 3 color stripes of the hull sides, I will use a different wood, alternating it with the walnut provided. The lines will not be horizontal Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values as in the real thing, but that will allow me to keep the natural wood finish and will give an idea of the design. Enjoying your build Eugenio!

Here is the device I use for holding bent planks while they dry. Very similar to your Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values nice method! You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Paste as plain text instead. Only 75 emoji are allowed. Display as a link instead. Clear editor. Upload or insert images from URL. This Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values is a copy of my build log I started on another forum.

This journey has a special meaning for me. All my life I wanted to build a ship. Not just any ship, but a highly detailed model, but as with most things life gets in the way. I built many models as a kid and teenager, but nothing like this. I grew up, went to school, got a degree in electronics, then became an engineer, worked at many trades, became a master machinist, a tool and die maker, Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values traveled the US, Canada, and Mexico as an engineer for a CNC machine tool manufacturer.

My lifelong hobby was wood working. I retired at age 48 due to medical issues. Now, at 68, I am working on goals on my bucket list. I desire to Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values build this ship while I still can. I don't know what time is left Enough about me, now let's build a ship.

This was not the kit I wanted. I wanted the Billings Boats kit, but due to the difficult times now with this virus they are closed temporarily and my order could not be filled. The distributor was very helpful in getting this kit to me as a substitute. My reason for wanting the Billings was it provided the basics at a good price and I could replace Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values the lesser quality parts with aftermarket and make the ship better detailed.

I will be doing the same thing with this kit. I have been studying McKay's book , The Gun Ship, and finding sources for upgrades while waiting 2 months for the kit to Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values arrive. I searched but could find very little builds of this kit. As I review it, I think I see why. Unless you have plans to replace a lot or scratch build a lot, this is not the kit to get. I think it will Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values work good for me as I will be replacing most of the parts. As for instructions You would have to know what you are doing because they are no help.

The instruction book is very basic. It is in three languages but with only 63 Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values pages, this limits the information. They are pretty much useless after you assemble the hull. The castings are kind of poor, I will be hopefully replacing most of them with ones from Shapeways. I have an order ready to send The wood parts are excellent.Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values

The wood strips and dowels are pretty good also. This is what I wanted the kit for anyway, the basic structure. The cannons are turned brass and very nice. The biggest problem is the stern gallery.

It will require major work and a lot of Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values scratch building to be what I want. Hopefully I can do this part and not use the kit parts. I have led lights I would like to install , but that is still undecided. The Billings kit was ideal for doing the lights , but this one would Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values require a lot of work. My next update will be assembling the hull.

I have done an inventory to make sure I have everything and it seems I do. Building this kit is by the seat of your pants. Besides the poor instructions I don't think the Italian translated well there is one sheet with a half dozen photos. The rest is up to me. I have dry fit all the bulkheads. The laser cutting was excellent. I just removed the char from the slots and everything fit right Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values together perfectly.

I set it up on my build board for gluing. I have two aluminum bars at the sides on the bottom, held by screwed down blocks. There are three pairs of right angles screwed down to hold it square and upright. The construction Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values of this hull is kind of interesting. You have to install all the bulkheads at the same time as the deck support you see in the photo can't be installed after the bulkheads. The last three bulkheads get put in and the deck support Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values is slid in place.

The rest of the bulkheads are slid over the front of the support and slid into place with the deck support. Once the bulkheads are in place and the deck support is in its location, everything is pretty solid. There is no adjustment. With it in the build board, the next step is to brush glue on all the bulk head joints. As can be seen in the next photo, the decks have the planks engraved on them and it actually looks pretty good, but they supply planking strips also to give a choice, and I will be planking my decks.

I welcome all suggestions and ideas, as there is a lot I don't know about ships. My first build was the Corel scale Golden Hind. I built it as a Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values dry run to do this one. I am also presently simultaneously building Chuck Passaro's Winchelsea. It will fill in time when I need a break or waiting for parts. I started it while waiting to get this ship. Jimsky Administrator Staff member. Joined Nov Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values 3, Messages 6, Points Many thanks for starting your build log, Mark!

Yet another Victory model upcoming, yet another build log to watch with interest. The bulkheads and deck supports are glued in and I am working on the dummy cannon rails. I'll let Victory Hms Values Model Ship Building this dry overnight and finish the hull framing tomorrow.

Uwek Administrator Staff member. Joined Dec 25, Messages 16, Points Mark Frazier said:. Click to expand I said this kit was different than the Billings and would change some things. This is the biggest problem area. The Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values above photo is the rear panel for the gallery. It is not bad looking, but the details are laser etched relief into the wood panel. This kit has another panel to put behind this one which is to be painted white. This fills the windows with a white background and I don't like that.

This kit has three pieces for the floors and ceilings, the Billings had 4 which was what I planned on. The reason this is a big problem is I wanted to put LED lights Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values in this area. So, Model Ship Building From Scratch Quotes now I have to decide about rebuilding this whole stern or follow the kit. If I use this panel as is, since the figures are laser etched in relief and the castings are fit onto them also, the Shapeways set of figures may not fit.

So, I have to work this out before ordering from Shapeways. The side gallery construction on this model is also much different than the Billings kit and will present another bunch of problems for my original plans. I only have half the Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values number of LEDs I probably should consider, so I may abandon the lights or only put them in the galleries and leave the cannon ports dark.

I wonder if that would look okay. I imagine the real ship wasn't always all lit up, but I don't know. The first thing is to work out this stern gallery problem so I know what to order. I had a plan on everything until due to this pandemic, I had to change kits. But I didn't know how bad it Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values was going to effect my plan. I will make lemonade. Meanwhile, on with the hull constuction. They don't tell this in the instructions, but the only way to make the dummy cannon rails bend to follow the bulkheads at the front is to make Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values some cuts at the first two bulkheads to allow bending without breaking Mark Frazier.

All the dummy cannon rails are installed. The next thing will be planking all the decks. The instructions say plank them and then install them, but the main deck has to Hms Model Values Building Victory Ship Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values be bowed a good bit to install it and the deck under it is split in half.

This to me means install and then plank even though it will be more difficult. My mind is still racing wondering about the stern galleries. I need to Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Building Hms Victory Model Ship Values Victory Model Ship Hms Values Building make a decision. This is how the Billings kit says to plank the deck. I am going to try this on this kit and see how it looks.

The thread will simulate the caulking. I cut a pile of 80 mm long pieces and stacked them.

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